Ep. 10: Deconstructing the Mighty Ducks’ hockey league and its playoff system

September 24, 2014 1:10 am Published by 5 Comments

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Mike, Tommy and Kevin attempt to figure out how the league the Ducks play in operates and uncover some shady things. They also provide a definitive answer as to why the No. 8 seed Ducks didn’t play the No. 1 seed Hawks in the first round of the playoffs.

 

Show Notes:

Tommy got the group started on a discussion about how its a tradition for the state tournament to be held in the North Stars’ arena. Except now games were held there. Evidence:

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Mr. Ducksworth’s exact line: “Actually Phil is one of my oldest friends.” Tommy was wrong again.

450 North Hennepin Avenue. The distance between Lake Calhoun and 450 N. Hennepin Ave: 12 miles.

Adam Banks saying he’s from Edina, Minnesota

The district map:

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What we know:

The Ducks are District 5.

The Hawks are District 6. Hans points to the southwest corner of District 5 when he says the lake isn’t the boundary ¬†anymore, right on the line of District 5 and District 6.

The Cardinals are in Coon Rapids, which is District 3. (If you look at the building the Ducks are in, it’s painted red and clearly says Coon Rapids.)

The Huskies are in Minnetonka, which is to the west, making them District 9.

Here’s the bracket:

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What we eventually agreed upon at the end was a North/South alignment for the playoffs, with the top half being the north and the bottom half being the west. Do that and everything makes sense.

Here’s the bracket with the seeding:

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Draw a line right down the middle and you have a north region — Districts 5, 2, 3, 10 — and a South region — 6, 4, 8, 7. Then District 9 and the undistricted team could be slotted in either region, depending on who makes the playoffs.

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5 Comments

  • Rhea says:

    I just think the team in charge of your… er, documentary… made a lot of errors. =P

    Because I looked for Hennepin Ave. before, too, and it doesn’t look like it’s in Edina at all. Looks more like a Minneapolis address… maybe Gordon’s.

    Plus, ‘the lake isn’t the boundary anymore’ doesn’t really make sense even for Gordon. He would have had to live at the outskirts of Minneapolis to be a Hawk when he was a kid. He should always have been with District 5.

    What would work better is if Han said ‘the river isn’t the boundary anymore’. That way, a Hennepin address (which I presume is actually Gordon’s, not Banks’), which is west of the river, would have made him a Hawk then and a Duck now after the line is moved.

    So I’m thinking maybe it is more accurate to say that the river used to be the boundary, but now it’s the lake. (Han just got his tongue twisted somehow and said it wrong.) Next question is: which lake?

    Because if they were referring to Lake Calhoun as the new boundary, Edina would still be district 6. Now, if they meant, say, Lake Anderson, that could make Edina district 5.

    I don’t know a thing about seeding so I defer to your good analysis. =)

  • Dan says:

    Actually, there’s another thing here that isn’t brought up: the Hawks were actually the eight seed and the Ducks were the seven seed. Why? Because the Hawks had to forfeit their first 12 wins because Banks was ineligible. With two games left, the Hawks were reset to zero points, while the Ducks picked up two points for a forfeit victory over the Hawks along with their earlier point from tying the Cardinals. As the Hawks were so much better than the rest of the league, they pick up four points in their final two games.

    If you look at the schedule of games on the left, it appears to say that the Hawks are facing the Huskies in their next game, which is played without Banks and counts as a win for the Hawks. The Huskies had a win already, so the Huskies and the Ducks are both sitting on three points in the last game. As the Ducks only have one win, a tie with the Huskies would mean the Hawks win the tiebreaker with the Huskies and the Ducks, because the Hawks would have two wins to one each for the Huskies and Ducks. That means the Ducks have to win the final game to get in, but in doing so, they pass the Hawks and become the seven seed, because the Ducks now have five points to the Hawks’ four.

    Meanwhile, the board also says the Cardinals are facing the Jets, and the Jets won that game, while the Flames claimed a forfeit win over the Ducks. The Flames would then go on to win their last game, giving them 11 wins (thanks to the forfeit they picked up from the Hawks) and making them the No. 1 seed. They get a matchup with the No. 8 seeded Hawks and lose. Meanwhile, the Hornets finish second and play the No. 7 Ducks, the Cardinals are third and face the No. 6 Cubs, and the Jets are fourth and face the No. 5 Tigers. The bracket then proceeds as shown.

    • Rick says:

      I’m not sure about that, while it is explicitly said that the Hawks would have to forfeit their renaming games if Banks stayed with the team it says nothing about games that have already been played, when they did not know that he was ineligible. I don’t think the Hawks had to forfeit their first 12 games and I don’t think that the film intends for that to happen at all.

  • Anonymous says:

    I love these movies pure classics I own all 3 and a Minnesota native! The whole banks Edina and 450 n hennepin ave, Disney could have tried a little harder to make it real rather than make it up!!

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